Forward of The Bachelor Season 27’s premiere on January 23, former franchise host Chris Harrison addressed Bachelor Nation in his new iHeartRadio podcast, painfully titled, The Most Dramatic Podcast Ever… With Chris Harrison.
The longtime host memorably stepped again from his duties as Bachelor, Bachelorette, and Bachelor in Paradise host in 2021 after he got here underneath fireplace for excusing and defending historic racism to the primary Black Bachelorette lead, Rachel Lindsay. After outrage from followers and alumni, Harrison revealed that he consulted with ABC and Warner Bros. and can be “stepping apart for a time period.” The franchise welcomed a number of visitor hosts in Harrison’s absence earlier than naming Bachelor alum and former NFL quarterback-turned-host Jesse Palmer as everlasting host in September 2021.
Greater than a 12 months later, on December 19, 2022, Harrison introduced he can be beginning podcast and addressing his controversial departure from the franchise, and after listening to the primary premiere, he’s not holding again. The primary two episodes of The Most Dramatic Podcast Ever… — “It’s Time We Speak” and “It’s Time We Speak (half 2) with Lauren Zima” — dropped on January 9, 2023, so listed here are 21 issues we discovered.
1. The podcast will rework right into a enjoyable undertaking down the road
Harrison described the podcast as “a really fascinating endeavor” that he approaches with “loads of trepidation and nerves,” however says that conversations about relationships will ultimately be “the tentpole” of the present. “As we transfer ahead, this present goes to remodel and transfer into many various issues, but when that is actually going to be about relationships a very powerful half is communication. And if I’m going to ask you guys to imagine in me, and open your coronary heart, and bear your soul, I’ve to do the identical…So I’m going to go first,” he mentioned.
2. Questioning why Chris Harrison began a podcast within the first place? He’s bought the reply.
When you’re one in every of many individuals questioning why the franchise’s former host determined to start out a podcast or waited so lengthy to talk out, he addressed these widespread questions. “I’ve gotten the query of, ‘When are you going to come back again? What are you going to do? And why are you doing this podcast?’” he mentioned. “The rationale I’m doing this primary — there are different thrilling skilled issues which can be going to occur later this 12 months — however I felt like I owed you this, you deserve this, and I wanted this. I have to have this speak. I’ve not spoken publicly since I left the Bachelor franchise. I’ve not made one remark.”
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3. Harrison “stands by” the purpose he was making an attempt to make in that “notorious” interview with Rachel Lindsay
Harrison mirrored on his phrases in that highly-criticized interview with Rachel Lindsay and tried to reframe and emphasize one explicit level. “To return to the notorious interview, one level that I used to be making an attempt to make — and didn’t make eloquently — was individuals want time to suppose. You want time to course of. We should have grace and endurance for individuals to suppose and course of, or else you’re simply getting this nonsensical reactive emotion from individuals,” he defined.
Later within the podcast, Harrison mentioned, “…Whereas the purpose I used to be making an attempt to get throughout I stand by, the way in which I did it was messy, disappointing, and it’s simply not me.”
4. Harrison has 19 years of Bachelor Franchise tea boiling in a kettle, and it appears like he’s able to spill some
Whereas discussing why he selected to start out his personal podcast, Harrison bluntly admitted that he has a sense his new undertaking is making some individuals in Hollywood understandably anxious. HMMM…
“I’m certain there are lots of people — properly, just a few individuals — which can be sitting in Hollywood proper now nervous as hell that I’m doing a podcast, and I suppose I’d say to these individuals, ‘When you’re nervous, possibly you need to be. Since you most likely know that I do know,” he mentioned. Know WHAT, sir?!
In Episode 2, Harrison’s fiancé Lauren Zima famous that “there are individuals on the present who’re very problematic nonetheless.” Whereas it appears there’s nonetheless loads to unpack in that division, we’re unsure Harrison will truly dive that deep, contemplating he claims it is a podcast about relationships.
5. The previous host’s largest remorse will not be talking out sooner
“If I had a remorse, it will be that I didn’t do that — that I didn’t simply come to you within the first place,” he advised listeners. “And I’ve to provide myself some grace, as a result of after I went via this ordeal after the interview and every little thing subsequently, I type of melted down. There was no template for this, there was no playbook. The playbook had been thrown out the window.”
Harrison mentioned he’s nonetheless not sure if doing a podcast is the best transfer, however he finally feels he ought to have come to followers “unedited, unfiltered, and simply talked” and defined how “sorry” and “heartbroken” he was from the beginning.
6. He misplaced 20 kilos, didn’t sleep, and didn’t eat for a stretch of time after the interview and backlash
“The hardest factor for me was the place to show, what to do…and I most likely ought to have led with this, however I used to be heartbroken. I used to be gutted. I used to be embarrassed. I used to be mad at myself. I used to be disillusioned in myself. The very last thing on this planet I ever wished to do was be an agent of something destructive, whether or not it needed to do with race or something,” Harrison defined. “The truth that I used to be concerned on this and that I had a giant half on this…I used to be sick. Sick to my abdomen. I misplaced 20 kilos. I didn’t sleep. I didn’t eat…”
7. Harrison and the Bachelor group thought the controversy would rapidly blow over
“Proper after the interview — and I don’t need this to come back off the mistaken manner — however actually whereas I used to be sick to my abdomen and I felt so disillusioned that the interview went that manner…out of that interview I wasn’t actually too apprehensive about my job or myself or the present,” Harrison defined. “So far as my standing in the neighborhood, it actually didn’t register on the Richter scale. There have been far more egregious issues occurring on this planet and issues that had occurred, and so individuals actually didn’t suppose it was going to quantity to a lot, and it will — if I apologized — we’d be capable of transfer ahead.”
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8. Harrison thinks the timing of his interview with Lindsay was “very related”
Harrison admitted he thinks the timing of his controversy was “very related of the place we had been on this planet,” explaining, “We had been all popping out of two years of being locked up, and I believe we had been all very offended and annoyed. After which culturally what was occurring on this planet with civil rights…there was loads of confusion, anger, resentment.”
Harrison additionally known as the interval “a really combustable second in time,” however famous that his timing of “being sloppy, inappropriate, mistaken in that second” was on him.
9. He clarified his position and duties as franchise host
Whereas Harrison was prepared to carry himself accountable on the podcast, he additionally took time to clarify that he alone doesn’t maintain sole duty for the failings of the franchise. “Did I’ve say within the selections that had been made round there? I didn’t. I by no means as soon as within the 19 years I used to be there employed or fired anyone. I by no means edited the present — that means I didn’t resolve what your storyline was, I didn’t resolve who was on digicam, what you had been saying, none of that. I didn’t solid the present,” he mentioned. “However I can’t absolve myself, as a result of you may’t present up every single day and make a giant paycheck and simply say I’m not part of that. That’s not honest.”
10. Harrison and his household had been “endorsed” in opposition to talking out or addressing the scenario past Instagram apologies
At a number of factors through the first two episodes, Harrison and his fiancé Lauren Zima shared that whereas they had been totally in a position and tempted to talk out and reply to the controversy, they had been strongly “endorsed” to stay silent — recommendation that they each remorse following so rigidly.
11. Harrison and Zima discovered consolation in a Harry and Meghan documentary
“I don’t know if any of you watched the Harry and Meghan factor final 12 months — the documentary,” Harrison started. “Lauren and I watched that collectively and we had been speaking about it. We mentioned it at size, being the journalists we’re…and we actually empathized with among the issues they had been saying.”
“One in every of them was, when issues go sideways, don’t converse. As a result of that’s what everyone desires. The tabloids. The clickbait. Oddly, sadly, it’s a bizarre factor. Once I counsel bachelors and bachelorettes once they’re going via issues…I say, ‘Truthfully? Shut up, don’t converse. And it’s so opposite to every little thing you’re introduced as much as imagine,” he continued.
12. Harrison felt he was getting used as a political pawn
As famous earlier, Harrison felt his dangerous feedback had been additional amplified due to all that was occurring on this planet on the time. “Rapidly this second and my identify are synonymous with this political lightning in a bottle second, and unexpectedly somebody on CNN is speaking about me for functions of the left, after which Ben Shapiro and whoever on Fox is speaking about me for conservatives…and so I used to be being utilized by the best,” he mentioned.“And so the leftwing, the rightwing, the middlewing — everyone was speaking about me on this second and I wasn’t talking… Every single day I awoke and there was one thing new.”
13. The controversy took a toll on Harrison and Zima’s relationship, nevertheless it finally made them stronger
“Lauren and I had a really tough time getting via this collectively, as a result of this occurred to her as a lot because it occurred to me,” Harrison mentioned. Within the second episode of the podcast, Zima got here on as a visitor to share extra of her feelings and ideas concerning the ordeal. She revealed that she was initially mad at Harrison for being so “messy” and never realizing how he sounded in that interview. However Harrison defined, “In the long run it introduced us collectively extra and made me love her extra.”
14. Harrison was stored within the loop after he left the present and was conscious of everybody who made a play for his job
When speaking about he all the time felt individuals wished to steal his job from him, Harrison known as out a gaggle of solid members who tried to secretly step into his sneakers after he left franchise. “I knew about it. I knew about sure solid members who had been calling in. And the humorous factor is, the individuals who had been calling in I knew had no likelihood to get the job,” he defined. “However there was blood within the water…”
Harrison didn’t identify names when dropping that preliminary bomb, however in Episode 2 of the podcast, he not so subtly implied that Bachelor alum and fellow podcaster Nick Viall was one of many individuals gunning for his job.
15. “Don’t use a disaster supervisor” – Chris Harrison
Harrison revealed that among the many many individuals who suggested him through the aftermath of his notorious interview was a disaster supervisor, and, let’s simply say he probably gained’t be utilizing one once more.
“I talked to a disaster supervisor. By the way in which, I hope and pray none of you undergo something like this, however don’t use a disaster supervisor,” he mentioned. “I’m not saying they’re stuffed with shit, however they’re not nice. And to their credit score, nothing ready any of them for this.”
16. Harrison thinks he ought to educate “a MasterClass and speak to universities” about this “wonderful examine in human habits”
One of many issues that shocked Harrison essentially the most throughout this entire ordeal was how everybody else responded, particularly these he as soon as thought had been in his nook. “I used to be astonished at how many individuals had their arms out and wished to receives a commission for this. It’s a weird factor,” he mentioned. “I ought to educate a MasterClass and speak to universities about this, as a result of if it wasn’t taking place to me, it’s a tremendous examine in human habits.”
“I’m certain whenever you’re at warfare you will notice a aspect of individuals that’s actual. That is them. As a result of when the shit hits the fan at that degree one can find out what’s actually inside any individual,” he defined. “When the bullets begin flying you discover out who’s actually going to be in that foxhole with you. Your circle will get small.”
17. Harrison suggested franchise alum and his personal brother to not converse out for concern of them being “devoured”
“I advised everybody, ‘Please don’t converse.’ It didn’t matter who it was or what you mentioned, you had been going to be devoured,” he mentioned. “I didn’t need that for anyone else.”
Harrison shared that his brother “wrote amazingly eloquent open letter to the world” and defended him, however he known as and advised him to take it down. “That dialog with my brother, that may have been my low level,” Harrison mentioned. He mentioned within the second he was making an attempt to be loyal to the present, however in hindsight, each he and Zima remorse encouraging his brother to tug the letter.
18. Harrison doesn’t watch The Bachelor, however he retains an eye fixed on the rankings 👀
“When individuals ask what I consider [the show] now, I don’t watch. The very last thing I believe I watched was [Hometowns] with Matt James,” Harrison revealed. “Once I left, it was nonetheless the primary present on TV. Now, look. Do I control the rankings? Do I do know what’s taking place now? I’m not going to say I’m not so humble or no matter to haven’t paid consideration to the scoreboard. Sure, I do know. I understand the rankings are down 50 to 60 % and the present has modified dramatically. That hurts me just a little bit as a result of it’s one thing I took delight in constructing.”
19. Harrison thought franchise alum and Paradise bartender Wells Adams was going to be named the brand new franchise host
“I assumed, to be utterly candid, that Wells was going to get the job,” Harrison revealed. The previous host claims he even advised Adams, “I actually hope you get the job.” Identical, Harrsion. Identical.
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20. Harrison and his household say they acquired demise threats following the interview
When reflecting on what she needs she’d finished otherwise, Zima mentioned she needs she learn fewer vicious feedback on-line. “It wasn’t simple having individuals inform me otherwise you to die, to kill ourselves, that we’re horrible,” she defined.
21. Harrison is a “trustworthy individual” who finally feels this controversy occurred for a cause
“Whereas I’m not completely satisfied as I wrap this primary episode up, I’ll say this: I’m not pleased with the way it went down. I’m not completely satisfied about the way it went down. However I’m a trustworthy individual. I imagine in God. I pray to God. God provides us these blessings, and these prayers in our lives get answered,” he defined. “They don’t all the time are available in a cute little field wrapped underneath the tree. Generally they arrive in brutal humbling, life altering, stunning moments. And that’s what this was. It was being slapped upside the top, stripped bare in entrance of all of you, humbled, taken to my knees…nevertheless it allowed me to have a greater life with my youngsters. to fall in love, to be engaged to the girl I really like…[and] to have a significantly better life than the one i used to be residing.”